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>> greg: something costas won't understand. in texas, burglar called 911 because he was held at gun point in th by the owner of thee he tried to invade. when asked what he was doing there, he said just unlucky i guess. after trapping the thief in his truck, james told his son if he gets out, shoot him in the legs. which in texas is a warning shot. what is uny for the thug is -- unlucky for thug is luck for us. 47% said they skipped committing a crime because of fear of an armed victim. that stat everyone should want in their favor. this tale shows how gun saves lives but also kills the stereotype, bob, that lives that gun owners are clumsy yoekels that collect guns the way sportscasters collect
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toupees. not so. the homeowner handled the situation with compassion, keeping the guy from endangering them and others. any decent gun owner says this how it's done. costas never worries about the trivialities like home invasion. commentators need no gun when the bodyguard is already packing. if only we all could be on tv with our shiny eyes affidavit thoughtful grin. we have wouldn't need guns. just opinions about them. thoughtful, yes. i want to go to the clip of this dad interviewed. i love the family. his kids, his wife, they were at home when this jerk came in. career criminal. we have tape. >> if he gets out, just shoot him in his legs. you ain't got to kill him, shoot him in the legs. stood on the porch with the shotgun where he could see him. if he got up i expected him to shoot him. >> greg: that is true fatherhood. dana you served time for armed
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robbery. did guns dissuade you from returning to life of crime? >> it made me think twice. i was going to attack a woman. if she was carrying mace, i might think twice about that. >> greg: very good. >> dana: interesting that you found that out about my past. i thought i had hidden it all. >> greg: you can't scrub everything on google. bob, don't you want criminals to weigh their luck when entering your home? >> bob: of course. i want the point out the guys were using long rifles, shutgun, not handgun. >> greg: he had a handgun. >> bob: here is the deal. why don't we have everybody strap on the six shooters or whatever they want to put on and walk around the streets. then we'll have no problem, right? everybody would be fine and secure from crime? is what that where this is going? the insanity is going? we're all going to be carrying concealed weapons in hollisters? do you want to wear a hollister walking around? >> greg: she would look
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great in a hollister. >> andrea: i would. not allowed to have a gun in new york city. burglars are less apt to break in if they think might have their brains blown out. in an area where guns are banned and know when hay come in the house the owner is a sitting duck. >> bob: less likely to break in if they'll have their brains blown out? >> andrea: this guy shoot to wound. he said don't shoot to kill, very nice. but bob if your little girl was held at gunpoint you want an innocent bystander to come to her rescue with a gun or a nerf bat. a soft paddles. >> bob: i have a shotgun in my house and i use it to defend my house. i said it over and over. >> andrea: hest my case. >> bob: you make correlation between people carrying guns around lower crime. crime is going down in america. >> dana: they were not carrying it around. they were in their home. >> eric: can i expand or your example that makes this an important example? first, i have a shotgun and --
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no, it's not a shot at her. this is for you, bob. >> bob: okay. >> eric: a couple weeks ago in "time" magazine, kendra sinclair home alone and man rang the doorbell in oklahoma. she didn't answer. the trespasser walked to the backdoor. she got scared and called her mom. her mom told her go get the handgun we have in the house. she got scared and got the gun. went in the bathroom, locked the door. trespasser started turning the handle on the door from the outside. she put a bullet through the door, hits him on the shoulder. trespasser was trying to attack the little girl. she survive, he survives but is flown to the hospital where he survives. that girl, i don't know. who knows? rape? dead? who knows what happens if that door handle was opened without a gunshot going through. >> bob: more children killed with guns in homes that were not locked up last year than ever killed -- >> andrea: do you want to get in to this? >> eric: want to do this? >> andrea: more kids were killed by abortion. >> bob: this is about guns.
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talking about guns. >> greg: 18 times more kids killed by bedding than guns -- n betting than guns. and plastic bags. >> bob: so strap it up and we'll go out there and shoot each other. >> greg: you are making an arguen't against your own argument no, guns to all guns. we are not talking about that. >> bob: i am talking about handguns. not long rifles or shotgun. >> talk about that. washington, d.c. and chicago, illinois, the city of chicago. both banned handguns. outright ban. you can't get a permit for a handgun in both cities. where is gunshot crime the highest in the country? take a wild guess. >> bob: where do thaw think they get the gun sales? >> eric: you are not going to eliminate guns. >> eric: you want $300 million people -- >> greg: you can't go back
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to that. >> bob: this is a free country. >> greg: okay. devon mclane works at auto zone shop and robber came in and wanted to open up the safe he came in and scared the robber off. he gets fired because you can't bring your own weapon in your own store, autozone. we have a clip from greta's show where the young man was being interviewed. >> zero tolerance policy of having weapons in the store. >> what did the manager say to you, because you obviously saved his life. >> he was very grateful that i was able to make it to my vehicle and grab my own weapon. you know, after the situation had gone down he said, "thank you, devin." >> greg: you carry a weapon at all times.
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should he have lost his job in >> dana: weapon of words and a sharp mind. in the summertime we talk about a lifeguard in florida who got fired because there was somebody just outside of the boundary where he worked. he got fired because he saved a man from drowning, saved a life. said we have a policy about against saving people's lives outside the boundary. this is similar in that he was able to protect the store, protect the manager. good policy you can't have a weapons on the premise and i get that but sometimes they go too far not having exception to the rule when someone's life is saveed. >> bob: if this guy were carrying a gun in every day and having it in the lunch room or something. but they ought to make exceptions for this. he saveed people's lives and saved the store snore but under your rule he would haven't been able to get his own handgun to bring it back
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in. >> bob: shotgun. >> andrea: this makes auto zone look really bad. it makes them look like jerks. hey, there is probably a lot of other places love to hire him. movie theater. i know there are other places that would say i'd love a guy with this heroism. make up their own rules. >> dana: this is actually the burglars, and why to we have -- if we had stricter consequences for this type of behavior, rather than having to protect yourself, there might -- they might be deterred from doing this thing. >> greg: we see the media focusing on the isolated aspect of gun violence. meanwhile, in chicago, shootings jumped 192 for the month. up 4% from 129 -- 49% from 129 a year earlier. bob costas hasn't talked about that at all. >> andrea: they are up in new york, crime. at a high. look. i think bob, you think that it has to be one way where everyone is shooting each other or only the criminals have guns. why do we have to shoot each other. isn't it better to have it and
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not need it than need it and not have it in if i had a gun i would only use it if i were severely assaulted. >> bob: chicago is the shipment of most drugs in the u.s. all the crimes are shot between criminals against criminals. that's what happens in the drug fights. it's true. >> eric: law abiding citizens in and around chicago with all the gun and drug trafficking going on shouldn't arm themselves protect themselves. >> bob: arm themselveses with shotgun. >> dana: so the and is legal idahoing drugs as they've started to do in colorado an washington state? >> bob: i think the idea of making a case out of chicago where virtually all of this is drug related gaw gang violence. >> eric: how about this case. how about this case. when you ban handguns in various societies around the world, there are countries that ban handguns the crime rate goes up. gun violence -- >> bob: that is ridiculous. >> eric: here is a good bet. here is a good bet. >> bob: find out how many countries that ban handguns --
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freddie your favorite country, what is your favorite country? switzerland? they have, they have the highest ownership of owns per citizen, 49 guns per 100. they have low gun country. >> bob: my favorite country is cuba, as you know. >> greg: true. >> andrea: in your monologue when you talk about the burglary suspect, did we mention he actually tried to call 911? >> greg: yeah, yeah, yeah. >> andrea: that is so cowardly. >> greg: help me! >> andrea: breaking in a house and call 911. >> greg: they asked what he was doing he came there with bad intentions. >> dana: i blame the burglar. >> greg: i think they should ban houses. if you don't have houses, burglars won't enter them. >> dana: ban money. >> bob: after i listen to this argument, i now agree with you. even should get a gun and strap it on to the hollister go out and we -- holster and we'll be safe. friday night a drunk bar we'll
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be safe. >> we all won't be safe but we all will be safer. >> dana: does it come with a matching handbag? >> bob: probably. >> greg: sparkly one. get a holster for jasper. >> dana: you know i didn't have a gun in washington, d.c.? i had a dog. people say does the dog bite? yeah. he does. >> bob: dogs are more likely to deter criminals than guns are. >> eric: in a home. >> bob: that's what we're talking about. >> greg: deter crime because they don't carry walts. we have to take a break. coming up remember that prank call by radio station to the hospital where princess kate was being treated? >> kate, my darling, are you there? >> good morning, ma'am. this is the nurse speaking. how may i help you? >> i've after my granddaughter kate. i want to see how her tummy bug is going. >> greg: this got a lot of laughs but there is a tragic
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♪ ♪ >> eric: welcome back, everybody. by now, you heard the frank prank the aid owe d.j.s pulled on the hospital in london where the duchess of came bridge was recouping from morning sickness. here is a snippet. >> kate, my darling, are you there? >> good morning, ma'am. how may i help glow >> i'm after my granddaughter kate, i want to see how her tummy bug is going. >> when might it be all right to come see her? maybe in the morning or something if that is okay. >> eric: the prank treateed worldwide uproar. here are the hosts surprised by the attention it was getting. >> they were the worst accents ever. we thought 100 people before us tried the same thing. >> we were expected to be hung up on. we didn't know what to say.
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>> but one of the nurses pranked by the radio station, not the one you heard we didn't use hers. it's the next that sent the call through to, killed her. she was found dead in her apartment where she lived with her husband and two children. two sides of the coin. up on one hand, maybe the radio host should have considered downside to the prank. but on the other side, they warrant targeting her directly so how could they have known? so the question is who is to blame if anyone? >> greg: i don't think anyone is to blame. andrea and i talk about the morning zoos are really annoying. but they just did, they just did a funny phone call. they have no idea. i think they are going to be demonized and there will be a lot of insane touched up outrage directed at the people. they will be harassed. but they had nothing, they had no idea. my guess is this woman had
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serious issues. >> eric: i will tell you on twitter, overwhelming people were very ticked off. >> greg: people like being ticked off. they like it. >> andrea: i will use this as an opportunity to express my disgust with morning d.j. this is steven with the morning crew. stick for contest to concert tickets and stop trying to harass medical workers. again, it's not their fault. but i don't have a lot of tolerance for them. but i think it could have been a trigger. we don't know, we're speculating but for a woman to take her own life over, this i'm sure she got negative feedback and felt guilty. but i guess there must have been something else there. this was something that aning the newsed -- antagonized. >> bob: don't kill themselves because they passed on a phone call to someone else. when all is said and done we find out this woman had troubles. what the guys did, i don't condone it. but you have people in new york city who did morning
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jocks who got two people to have sex in the middle of cathedral. >> dana: they did not. >> bob: they did, too. in washington we had a crash of air florida. the next day the morning zoo guys called air florida and said how do i get a flight to 14th street bridge. >> dana: they took heat about it. this is a shtick that the morning jockeys do. do you remember when the fake sarkozy called palin on the campaign bus? and there is a series of checks that you are supposed to do when you get to that level of candidacy, that you are supposed to check with a secret password or something that goes from one person to the next. so the nurse who probably thought she was being helpful, didn't follow the procedures with the check. it's amazing they could just call in and she would turn over the information. but nobody, everybody likes these kind of jokes when they call up and say oh, guess what? you are getting a parking
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ticket. >> andrea: jerky boys. >> greg: they were the greatest, one of the greatest comedic phenomenon of my lifetime. you raise a good point. if you are laughing at this before the tragedy an now you are outraged that might be on you. >> eric: no, no. definitely on you. who doesn't ever once in a while hear the phone call, one of the morning shows in new york, they do it every single morning. they prank comeone, at work or the wife said this or girlfriend said. that it's funny. the unintended consequence, you didn't know -- this woman god bless her soul was not targeted in this. they wanted to tuke kate middleton -- talk to kate middleton. >> andrea: in some ways they were trying to harass -- a global figure but trying to harass kate middleton when she was sick. i don't think this is funny. people who think this is funny don't have a real sense of humor. >> eric: if they did get through to kate middleton and
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picked up the phone, that would haven't been funny >> andrea: how is that funny? >> eric: i think it would have been funny. >> andrea: she would have said okay, and hung up. >> bob: this is radio going on for 20, 30 years. that is what they do. they do this. >> dana: some do it cleverly and well. as the disk jockeys admitted they didn't even have good accents. when you were on the book tour you did a radio interview with somebody who was outrageous and just for the shock value. >> greg: i'll talk about it. he actually made a crass remark about charles krauthammer. it ripped him to shreds because i was like what you r you doing. >> dana: heaves somethinged and back pedaled. wait. >> bob: you were in the south on the book tour, right? didn't understand the accent at all. >> greg: they were lovely people. moonshine. >> bob: you are from new york. you are not lovely people. >> greg: i felt even smaller than i do now. >> bob: that is pretty small. >> eric: got to go. coming up, bob spend the
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>> andrea: the "50 shades of gray" book that have sex, bondage and more taught readers new things. should students learn about that book? new class on the exotic trilogy will be offered to undergraduates this spring at american university. bob, we have rising tuition, student loans being given out, people going in to debt to go
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to college and this is what they're being taught? >> bob: first, this thing was publishing phenomenal, right? the trill. it took off because of -- the trilogy. it took off from social media. that's what the teacher wants to talk about, how this becomes a phenomenal. he doesn't want to talk about bondage. >> andrea: i'm sure. >> bob: but i mean -- no. this is not abouter rotca. >> andrea: i read the course description. it wants to get in deviant behaviors. my question, it was taboo to talk about this. now we talk about it at 5:00. people read it in the open michigan parents if they had a book like this would have never been reading it in the open. >> bob: why deviant behavior? >> andrea: some consider it diveient. you don't. >> greg: based on a year in
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his life. >> eric: there are ways to use it in the classroom. here is how you write a book, market it, a lot of people make money. do it in a way we talked about this morning. tall years , progress, feminist movement made, respect for women and then a book like this. does it risk undermining all the progress that's been made? >> dana: the third thing teach people how not to write a novel. it read the first chapter and thought it was so poorly done i couldn't get through it and i went back to my "weekly standard." >> dana: let me ask you something. >> andrea: you have a good opinion on this. is this that men have become so femmennized and women become more masculine where they read a book where a man has take charge role and tie women up, women love it? >> greg: romance novels have been around forever. fabio on the cover of many
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books. some i own to this day. hey fabs! this is a for fect metaphor for today's universities. i don't know what metaphor is. if you learn to write write er ratca, at least you learned something and you can make money on it. that beats gender studies. i applied for a job in late '80s and got "it" penthouse magazine and i wrote a lot about cutoffs. dab >> dana: he applied for a job at penthouse letters and he got it. >> greg: but everybody gets a job at penthouse letters. they send you a folder filled with examples of the letters and they give you certain prompts. i was broke. i was living at home with my mom writing penthouse letters in my old bedroom. >> bob: did you mother edit the letters? >> greg: my poor mother had no idea. it wrote four of them. none of them published. >> eric: exactly what you
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suspected is that all those letters come from broke dudes in their mom's basement writing the letters. >> greg: exactly right. it's true. >> bob: sex phone lines? most of the people on the other women are 75-year-old women on social security. that's what i heard, anyway. the other thing about that is this guy says -- he wants to teach about the domestic violence against women. there is nothing wrong with that. >> andrea: brings me to a good point. a lot of women and the "new york post" did piece on this. women are going out and buying rope in droves. new york city hardware stores are running out of rope women are reading this going i want to be tied up and have a necktie and be spanked. so they were willing. how is that domestic violence. >> bob: whatever floats your boat. you can live your life in missionary position, and you'll be a missionary. >> dana: this is a trilogy -- what did you say?
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[ laughter ] >> greg: it's good you didn't hear that. you will have to wash your ears out. >> dana: anyway, i was going to make a fantastic point. i remember what it was. that it's escapism for people. people read it on a train or plane. somebody made an interesting point to me that women were reading this everywhere on planes. it never saw a man reading it on a plane. but if a man brought some sort of erotica on a plane it wouldn't be as accepted as this because everyone was excited that women read it. >> greg: bill hemmer brings it between the breaks. >> bob: don't you think some women want to be sexually liberated? >> andrea: is it domestic violence if it's their choice? i don't know. i don't have the answer. this book showed that nothing is taboo anymore. this is common culture now. >> dana: they have a section now at the bookstores just about this literature. >> andrea: yeah. >> greg: i have never been there. >> dana: dark erotica it's called.
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not just erotica. >> eric: how do you know? >> dana: i went to the barnes and nobles, which is where i wanted to buy novels and i walked by it. it's like a toy store now. legos. >> bob: a lot of toys. >> dana: not those kind. >> andrea: on that note. coming up, a teenager drinks, drives and his friend dies after he crashes the car. listen to this, he doesn't get jail time but the judge is making him go to church. for a decade. is it legal? we'll debate it! up next. [ female announcer ] the humana walmart-preferred rx plan p-d-p gives you a low $18.50 monthly plan premium... and select generic hypertension drugs available for only a penny... so you can focus on what really matters. humana at 1-800-808-4003. available for only a penny...
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good afternoon. i'm john roberts in washington. the big story here today is four more weekends now before the u.s. comes face to face with the fiscal cliff. tonight on "special report," house speaker john boehner says there has been no progress in negotiations with the president. he is again calling on mr. obama to come up with a
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new proposal. vice president joe biden says a deal could be done in 15 minutes. all this comes as the government announces a gain of 146,000 jobs in the month of november. the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%. that is the lowest in four years but that was mostly due to people who stopped looking for work. both sides agree the u.s. does not want to follow down the path of greece. what is to blame there? too much austerity or too much taxation? we'll look at the problems inside his own party, for speaker boehner. it's friday. that means the lightning round with the panel. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> bob: kay. there is music for you. on december 3 last year, 16-year-old tyler alfred from oklahoma was driving under the influence and crashed his
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pickup truck killing his passenger and friend 16-year-old john luke. he pleaded guilty to first degree man slaughter in august. in the muskogee county -- it's oklahoma, district judge mike norman he sided not to give him -- decided not to give him jail time. but order to attend church regularly for ten years. i have several thoughts but let you start. eric, what do you think? >> eric: this is tough. blood alcohol is .6 or .7. double the legal limit. there are other issues. not just attend church. he has to graduate high school and graduate welding school and testing going forward. on the other hand he is 17-year-old? yeah. 17 years old. i have a problem with this. 17-year-old now is kind of an adult. i'm sure he is getting this because he is 17 and not 18. i'm guessing. am i wrong? >> bob: it may be part of it. listen, it seems to me i'm a
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believer in going to church. but this careerly crosses the boundary -- clearry crosses the boundary between church and state. i don't know why the judge, alcohol testing why he didn't sentence him to alcohol rehab or at least outpatient rehab because a kid like this. at this stage, i will guarantee you in my experience he will continue to drink and drive. this kid will kill himself or somebody else again whether he goes to church or not. >> dana: i think maybe this was a good solution because perhaps the remorse he expresses in the article, for the incident, actually then he will find a way to improve his life. if the aclu wants to step in to help parent these kids, which is what the government has had to do. all of the things he got sentenced to is things that parents used to tell tell you, u had to do. graduate high school, isesment and go to church. now the government has to do it. i don't think the aclu doing anything else to help this young man. >> bob: you don't think it's a big cross over the line?
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>> dana: i don't care. when the aclu ends the charlie brown christmas excursion from 7-year-olds. this is what they spend their time doing. i think they should butt out in this case. threat guy go to church to see if it helps him. >> greg: i have to disagree with dan ab. >> dana: outrageous monster. >> greg: this is silly and unconstitutional. the judge is grand standing or incompetent. it trillizes the case. they should send the kid to jail and send the judge to law school. he probably wants a tv show. ever since judge judy every judge wants their own show. looking for an agent. >> eric: okay with the rest of it? bracelet, victim -- take part in victim impact panels? >> bob: those are not as severe. >> andrea: this is a clear violation of the first amendment. he can't do this. i'm going say something i don't think i've said before. i agree with the aclu. he can't do this. this is not the government's role to step in and mandate
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that he go to church. the most important issue is that the -- that the punishment doesn't really fid the crime. this kid already says he goes to church. they said he has to get his g.e.d. while, it's a good intention, plenty of people have education who go out and kill people or drive drunk and end up -- >> greg: a dead kid isn't getting his g.e.d. and going to church. there is a punishment for that. >> bob: there are kids i know alcoholics who go for weekend in jail. there they have to do intensive therapy on the drinking and drugging. that makes a lot more sense than going, than forced to go to church. >> andrea: g.e. d/b/a behind bars. >> dana: maybe the judge exercising his judgment, saw something redeeming in this young man and thought that he was making the best decision based on his statement. nibble local control, counties and states should be able to pick their judges. i assume he's elected or appointed by political appointee. that is what they do. make judgments. >> eric: i make a point.
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we don't know if this was the defendant's proposal to say hey, i'll go to church and the judge said fine, put it on the list, too. >> bob: you don't think it will survive the courts do you? >> dana: i won't take the aclu seriously until they defend the guy who made the video that caused -- that did not cause the benghazi attack. >> bob: this is -- >> dana: they let him rot in jail. >> bob: this is as clear a violation of church and state i've ever seen. >> eric: your issue is the church part of it? >> bob: yeah. i wish they would go to church. it's great. >> dana: can i have the book the loneliness. nobody agrees with me. i have not convinced anybody. >> bob: let me give you a thought about that. sit right here, you will understand what it feels like. >> andrea: it's true. judges should have discretion but i think the discretion -- >> dana: that's the word i'm looking for. >> andrea: he is crossing the line. this is not adequate punishment. >> dana: that is right. >> bob: coming up, 71 years ago today japanese attacked pearl harbor and killed thousands of americans.
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a new movie hits theaters today that honors veterans of world warii. we'll do the same when we come back. ♪ ♪
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december 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy. >> dana: today is the 71st anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor. japanese struck us to world warii. the nation remembers the fall an new movie hits theaters today that honors the veterans of the war and highlights the program that has been taking the same heros to see the world warii memorial in d.c. built in their honor. the movie is called "honor flight" and has broke an world regard with 28,000 people attending the premier in wisconsin. take a look. >> they came home with their duffel bags and put them in the back and never talked about it again. >> then we found out that we were going to iwo jima. >> when i was liberated, i only weighed 70 pounds. there was only three of us that survived.
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>> your heart just goes off. >> it took 60 years for us to build a memorial to these guys. they never got the welcome home that they deserve. >> we will never ever forget. ♪ >> thank you. thank you. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you, everybody. >> dana: so in 2009, the film-maker dan hayes who is the brother of our , cocontributor steve hayes, fox news and "weekly standard," figured out somebody has to capture the memories. honor flight is a great program started by joe dean, ibm executive. he heard about this and what they do is go to a city like chicago and they will find as many world warii veterans as they can and do an all expense trip, day trip to d.c. and they come and get to come and see the memorial. a lot of people can volunteer to do it. i am so excited. i have been waiting for the
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movie for two years. bob, you have seen the veterans in washington as well. >> bob: first, disappointed about taking so long to get the world war ii monument up. it was a big debate going on. i don't know why. it's such a beautiful thing first of all to see it. to see the guys coming. let's remember now, i don't think anybody is a world war ii veteran is less than 80 years old. if you think about it, if you were 16, 17 in 1941. so we are losing these people at a rapid rate. thought they could finally come and see the honor that they deserve is just remarkable. the honor flight idea was a terrific idea. i hope every one of them could do it and take advantage of it. >> dana: eric, do you think your son would enjoy the film? >> eric: my son is eric bolling, not after me but after his great unk who was killed in world warii. shot down in the south pacific. never found his body. took years and years to declare that he was killed in action. that's why he is named eric bolling. i hope, i hope i raised him
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right enough, well enough to realize to realize how important that generation is and was. >> dana: you are familiar with the films because one guy working on the directors and producers of the program. >> greg: a frequent guest on "red eye." that is how i found out about it. great thing. it should be inspiration for our current military to realize that you are the good guys and history will regard that you are the good guys, as long as we don't let professors write history. >> dana: you love movies. this week you saw "lincoln." is this something you'd see? >> andrea: absolutely. my grandfather was in the second wave d-day, normandy beach. it wish i had the stories on tape of him talking about it. i know my mom knows them very well. but this was such a great generation. maybe the greatest, they called them. these are men who made extreme sacrifices a women who also let their sons go out. the definition of sacrifice has i think just been
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distorted. nowday what is is sacrifice? buying your own birth control? back then, it was giving your life for country. these men -- >> bob: part of this is honoring women who flew air force in the second world war. the other thing about that that i think is important is younger generation of kids need to know about world warii. the entire history of this country was shaped as aftermath of world warii. cold war and wonward -- >> dana: most of the world. >> bob: exactly right. the lack of teaching about world war ii, i find appalling. 'canes is a great way to learn -- >> dana: this is a great way to learn about it. hear from veterans in their own word. treasure. dan hayes desevens commending for this. "honor flight" the movie. that's where you go. honorflightthemovie.com to find out where it's playing. take your children, your cousin or maybe you want to take greg. one more thing is up next. ♪ ♪ initiated.
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together a special. "fly me to the moon" sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. he talks to a number of astronauts who have been to the moon. dock pelling and beautiful -- it's a compelling and beautiful documentary he's done. take a look at a segment of it. >> it was time to come back, but not before the sight of the earth booming with color, atmosphere and light in a cold black sky affected cerna. >> i promise you if i could take every human being with me for five minutes and stand them next to me for the surface of the moon and look back at the earth, the world might very well be a better place to live in today. there is no question in my mind that there is a creator of the universe. >> bob: i wish everybody, watch it. a wonderful important part of the history. neil has done a terrific job. >> bob: dan ab. hopefully this won't bore us. >> dana: i told you that
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senator jim demint is leaving the senate and going to the heritage foundation. so the governor of south carolina gets to appoint somebody. there is somebody from south carolina who is auditioning for job. listen. >> now the decision on who will replace demint falls to south carolina governor and friend of the show nikki haley. but who will she pick? you want somebody young. somebody conservative. somebody from south carolina. maybe somebody who has a super pac. wait a second. [ applause ] watch where you point that thing. it's powerful. 'canes governor nikki haley kept her cards close to the vest but she ruled one person off the list and says colbert is not going to get it. not going to the senate. >> andrea: okay. so, the korean pop star who has become a national, or a
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global phenomenon, the rapper for his hit gangnam style he has a anti-american past where he says kill the blinking yankees who ordered them to torture, kill the mothers, daughters, daughters-in-law. so even though he has the right to say what he wants and sing about whatever he wants or rap about whatever he wants, we don't have to buy his records or download his songs. greg gutfeld had the best idea this morning when he sent around the story and said we don't have to talk about him anymore, right? >> greg: right. we are going to talk about him on "red eye." >> bob: say one thing. rap this. >> eric: housekeeping updates. @vanessariddle. tried to get her to 50,000. got her there. she is up to 164,000 twitter followers. she has stage four cancer. we have to go. get her to 250,000. before she goes to germany for more treatment. there is an election in louisi